For those of you that were in the bible study on Wednesday you know I had a really strong reaction to Chapter 13 in our book. I really only had a strong reaction to one section of the book and by now if you have read it I am sure you can guess where I got upset. For those who haven't read it yet I will put the section in this blog. I have spent days thinking about this book and what I wanted to say and I wanted to be careful that I wasn't writing from anger, disappointment or shock. Every study we do is a teaching experience to help us grow in our faith journey and while we may or may not agree with everything that is written we must take the text before us and learn from our reaction. By the end of our time with that book, chapter, or study we must find a way to take what we have been given and process the facts, find our own facts and come up with an answer that stretches our mind and strengthens our faith.
In Chapter 13, Lysa, discusses the concept of Mommy Guilt. Now we know Mommy Guilt, exists because we all have it or have had it. We guilt ourselves about not spending enough time with our children, we guilt ourselves when we snap at them, we guilt ourselves when we shoo them away and we guilt ourselves when we take time to be alone because we think we should be doing something for the children. As we grow older and our children grow older we realize that we shouldn't have Mommy Guilt and that we are doing the best we possibly we can and every once in awhile we need time away from those precious bundles of joy. Newer moms have a little bit longer to go on the journey of being freed from Mommy Guilt but they too will reach the freedom and happily pass on the knowledge to other moms.
Lysa gives rules for the No More Mommy Guilt Club and Rule #1 is where I had problems: "I will no longer be fooled into thinking that my kids came to me good and anything bad they do is a reflection of my poor mothering. No, kids are bad when they come to us. They have the same sin nature that causes you and me to sin, and they need a Savior just as much as we do. How else do you explain that sometimes great parents have rotten children and rotten parents have a great child? I mean, even God, the perfect parent, had Adam and Eve, who had to be sent to the most serious time-out of them all...all the way out of the Garden! Therefore, instead of pointing the finger at myself when they act bad or make poor choices, I will point them toward their heavenly Father. I will assess what correction the kids need and administer that, but I will not let my kids' poor choices define me as a mother." I don't have problems with the whole section. It is really like one statement: 'No, kids are bad when they come to us." I disagree with that statement and I am surprised it was made. As a mother I am careful not to tell Jack that he is bad but rather I tell him his behavior is bad and those are two very different things. So when I read this statement I really had to process it and learn from it and ask myself why it bothered me so much. The answer is simple: I know children don't come to us bad. One look in my children's eyes and I know it to be the truth.
Lysa uses Adam and Eve as an example of children being bad. And I am going to throw out an idea that I had never thought of before until I started to do my own thinking and reading but what if Adam and Eve aren't God's children. I am going to pause for a gasp! God never refers to Adam and Eve as His children. God had one son and he was sent to earth to save us from our sins. "For God so loved the world that he gave his ONLY Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life." (John 3:16). I spent my whole upbringing being told I was one of God's children and it was a concept I didn't really think about it too much. I know I am one of God's people because I have chosen to be and I know he loves me but just because I am one of his people doesn't make Him my parent. I do believe that we are all "children" of God but in Lysa's context I think there is a difference in raising your children and being a "child" of God.
God created man and woman from the dust and he created man in his image. When Adam and Even ate from the tree of knowledge they didn't do it because they were bad, I believe they did it because they were curious. They were told they would be like God and have His knowledge. Yes, they disobeyed God but it wasn't out of malicious intent and when you describe someone as bad you are describing someone who is unfavorable, morally objectionable and mischievous. Those words do not describe children. In Genesis Chp 6 the text refers to "sons of God" and I believe that to mean "Men" that God created and the daughters are referred to as daughters of men, men that were born not created. There is a big difference here between created and born. And through the line of Adam, through birth, Noah was born and Noah was righteous. So righteous that he and his family were chosen by God to survive the flood and give birth to the new humankind.
I do agree that children are born with a sinful nature and it is the parents that teach the children to follow God. Many times throughout the bible it is mentioned how important children are to the kingdom of heaven and how if you were turn even a child away from God you would be punished. One of my favorite verses comes from Matthew 18 and it was the first verse I thought of when I read this chapter: "At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" He called a little child and had him stand among them. And he said: "I tell you the truth unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large mill-stone hung around his neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea." (18:1-4,6)
Knowing how important children are, can we really believe they are born bad? Isn't our job as parents to guide and nurture them and pray that the sinful nature that is a part of us won't break through. That we teach our children to know the difference between good behavior and bad behavior and show them that they are loved by us and they are loved by God. If we aren't doing those things than we should have a big dose of Mommy Guilt.
Firstly, I am having mixed feelings about her statement. I hate to be "wishywashy" when it comes to an opinion (anyone who knows me can attest to this.) But, I can see where Lysa is coming from. I think what she's trying to say is that the "bad" that comes from children is not a reflection of a parent's parenting... Nope, even now I still don't like that. If one was to believe that, then one would also have to believe that the "good" that one’s children do is not a reflection of parenting either. And, I don't think that. I think that all of Emily's "bad" and "good" is a true reflection of how I've raised her. Now, that's no to say that SOMETIMES, in certain, rare circumstances there are "bad seeds". But, I think that it few and extremely far between. However, if you look at our relationship with God...Are we "good" AND "BAD" because of God, or just "good"? I think differently of this relationship. I would be quick to say that all good comes from God and any "bad" comes from evil (the constant manipulation of a force that wants to pull you away from God.) I know that might be a little extreme for some of you...sorry, it's just what I think.
ReplyDeleteThis idea brings me to my second opinion; Adam and Eve were children of God. I think there's a difference between being a child of God and the Son of God. The Son of God is God in human form. A child of God is a person whose been created by God. I don't think "evil" can create (only God can do that), but I do think that it can influence heavily. And I think that's what happened with Adam and Eve. They were heavily influenced by "evil" to go against God. I agree with you though Jen, I don't think it was malicious either.
I'm trying to make sure that I've got the way to comment. More later, I hope.
ReplyDeleteWell,you've stumbled into one of the major theological debates of all time. Long ago and far away, there was a man named Irenaus who leaned towards the idea of human beings created in the image of God and declared 'good.' A man named Augustine focused on 'the fall" and believed that in that event, humans were then totally evil. Guess who won? Augustine did and we went down the whole 'born evil' path. Now it should be acknowledged that there are texts in the Bible (whether we like them or not that support that position - passages in Romans and the difficult one in Psalm 51). There are also the texts that you cited that of course indicate Jesus' and God's love of children. I wasn't impressed with Lysa's take on this, either. And actually, hoping that I won't be misunderstood when I say this, I think guilt can be a great motivator. Guilt is different from shame. Guilt comes when we understand (maybe even deep down under) that we have acted against our own best intentions and we all do that. That brings us to confession and can bring us closer to God. What she is talking about as Mommy guilt, I think, is unrealistic expectations about being perfect or something...that's not helpful. No one can be perfect, but when we act in destructive ways to others (including our children) and know it, we're going to feel guilt, hopefully...We are then given an opportunity to ask for forgiveness both from the other person and from God. So I hope this comment gets posted as this is the third time I've tried and I'm not going to try again!
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan of the "born bad" theory... I am a HUGE psych nerd, so I certainly I believe in chemical imbalance and mental illess that can strike any age at any time. I also have study nature verses nurture, etc.. That aside, I have done things and said things that some would think "bad mommy". The things I can do/do already as a parent is encourage my children, support their interests, give them an active Christian upbring, give them roots and wings...and lead by example. My children are very strong willed, Autumn especially so. That girl will reach mountaintops we've never even heard of. I raised her to be independent,(especially with regards to her diabetes), question things, not just take things at face value, do their best, if you accept less than the best, you very well may get it...and most importantly, put God first...WELL>>>>>>>some of these things are biting me in a butt a bit. She has a fire in her belly,,,and I wished she uses it in her favor, not against her favor. I certainly can help in this matter, but let me tell you, Mommy guilt factors in...I should be a better example, yell less, not be demanding, considering she does so well on her own accord...maybe more encouraging...that's what I think could help a lot. etc...I certainly can learn lessons from the bible, those in my life, regardless of what age, background, etc... Hopefully, those lessons will be beneficial and can weigh in in my life, as a mother, wife and friend. I just need to breathe and soak it in. I will pray for that.
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